People from Spain/Netherlands.. why the hate...

[krim]

..towards Americans, asians and Chinese in particular.

My buddy just got back from his honeymoon in Europe, and from what he told me, there is rampant racism towards chinese people, which he is. I can understand the dislike of Americans, but why asians...?

While he was in Spain, he said it was particularly bad. A lot of the young spaniards would walk behind him using rather profane language and they kept calling him a cockroach.

In the Netherlands, they would keep saying Fatwa as in holy war to him. Then when confronted, they'd say that theres no such word in dutch. They also seem to not like Japanese people, he was mistaken for a japanese more than a few times, they'd talk sh*t behind his back and deny anything when confronted, even though they had a dutch speaking friend w/ them. When they figured out he wasn't japanese, they'd rail on the fact that he's chinese and american.

From what it sounded like, FRANCE of all places was the most tolerent of the countries he went to. The harrassment was constant in the Spain and the Netherlands and when he got on the plane the dutch people in the row behind him were talking sh*t almost the entire flight to his xfer in New York.


So.. what's the deal. Im sure it doesn't mean that everyone is like that, but those living in those countries must know something that we dont hear in US newspapers and such.

[w3bhead]

Wow, I didn't know that there's stuff going on like that there...

[I.Love.Rock]

ouh!~Thats sad.and scary.*_*

[Tu_triky]

krim wrote:

..towards Americans, asians and Chinese in particular. My buddy just got back from his honeymoon in Europe, and from what he told me, there is rampant racism towards chinese people, which he is. I can understand the dislike of Americans, but why asians...? While he was in Spain, he said it was particularly bad. A lot of the young spaniards would walk behind him using rather profane language and they kept calling him a cockroach. In the Netherlands, they would keep saying Fatwa as in holy war to him. Then when confronted, they'd say that theres no such word in dutch. They also seem to not like Japanese people, he was mistaken for a japanese more than a few times, they'd talk sh*t behind his back and deny anything when confronted, even though they had a dutch speaking friend w/ them. When they figured out he wasn't japanese, they'd rail on the fact that he's chinese and american. From what it sounded like, FRANCE of all places was the most tolerent of the countries he went to. The harrassment was constant in the Spain and the Netherlands and when he got on the plane the dutch people in the row behind him were talking sh*t almost the entire flight to his xfer in New York. So.. what's the deal. Im sure it doesn't mean that everyone is like that, but those living in those countries must know something that we dont hear in US newspapers and such.

That is f*cked up....but dood there is rampant racism throughout Europe....they aren't as englightened as one might think....it's understandable these days for hatred toward Americans given our country's policies around the world but as far as particular hatred toward asians or chinese i can't address that in particular.

Man you should see the shit these fuckers do toward black soccer players in Europe!

I've seen fuggin' NAZI flags....white power slogans....making Monkey noises at black players...spittin' on players during throw ins from the sidelines....i actually saw a muthafucker throw a BANANA on the pitch during a European soccer match (not the World Cup mind you)

ABSOLUTELY DISGRACEFUL.

edit: btw, Asians along with blacks are typical targets of racism in Europe being considered members of the underclass who steal jobs, etc....all that bullshiet.

[w3bhead]

Tu_triky wrote:

That is f*cked up....but dood there is rampant racism throughout Europe....they aren't as englightened as one might think....it's understandable these days for hatred toward Americans given our country's policies around the world but as far as particular hatred toward asians or chinese i can't address that in particular. Man you should see the shit these fuckers do toward black soccer players in Europe! I've seen fuggin' NAZI flags....white power slogans....making Monkey noises at black players...spittin' on players during throw ins from the sidelines....i actually saw a muthafucker throw a BANANA on the pitch during a European soccer match (not the World Cup mind you) ABSOLUTELY DISGRACEFUL.

That's just abolutely messed up.

[Tu_triky]

w3bhead wrote:

That's just abolutely messed up.

Dood, i once saw this banner brought in to this European soccer match...a BIG one mind you...and it said (directed toward black soccer players)


"you will get peanuts and bananas for your infamy"



as messed up as things are in the States...you won't ever see that shiet...

[Tu_triky]

krim wrote:

..towards Americans, asians and Chinese in particular.

ultimately they are racist toward asians and chinese because they suck at using chopsticks.

[w3bhead]

Tu_triky wrote:

Dood, i once saw this banner brought in to this European soccer match...a BIG one mind you...and it said (directed toward black soccer players) "you will get peanuts and bananas for your infamy" as messed up as things are in the States...you won't ever see that shiet...

I guess even if their government tries to prevent this, stuff like these are still bound to happen. Kinda makes me wonder if asian and black people who are visiting Europe right now for the World Cup are feeling a bit of this right now.

[boris]

Hmmm, that's strange I thought that the Dutch are rather liberal and tolerant, maybe they are not happy of constant emigration flow toward their countryes, but to channel this toward tourist looks very stupid to me .
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[Tu_triky]

w3bhead wrote:

I guess even if their government tries to prevent this, stuff like these are still bound to happen. Kinda makes me wonder if asian and black people who are visiting Europe right now for the World Cup are feeling a bit of this right now.

i guess it's possible but during a high profile event such as the world cup with various ppl from around the world i would imagine the germans are extra vigilant about that..like they wouldn't put up with it...put it this way
i doubt we are going to see swastikas flying during any world cup matches despite the presence of Neo-Nazis in Germany. but perhaps during a normal time without the added exposure of such an event things might be different.

[krim]

boris wrote:

Hmmm, that's strange I thought that the Dutch are rather liberal and tolerant, maybe they are not happy of constant emigration flow toward their countryes, but to channel this toward tourist looks very stupid to me .

yes, that's what surprised me the most.

[Tu_triky]

krim wrote:

yes, that's what surprised me the most.

the bud and the E isnt' as good as it used to be

[krim]

it's kind of funny, he loved Heineken, and now he swears he'll never touch that or anything made/exported from there... and he's gone so far as closed his ING Direct account...

[Tu_triky]

krim wrote:

it's kind of funny, he loved Heineken, and now he swears he'll never touch that or anything made/exported from there... and he's gone so far as closed his ING Direct account...

is he throwing away his dutch overn too?

[krim]

Tu_triky wrote:

is he throwing away his dutch overn too?

That's between him and the wife.

[Tu_triky]

krim wrote:

That's between him and the wife.

must hate rie miyazawa too..her father was dutch...maybe he was racist too...since he left rie-mama and her.....

[krim]

Thats sad.

I really thought europe had learned it's lesson 60 yrs ago...

[Tu_triky]

krim wrote:

Thats sad. I really thought europe had learned it's lesson 60 yrs ago...

no one in the fuggin' world has really learned the lesson, my friend...and it shall remain so until we fuggin' annihilate the planet with nuclear or environmental destruction.

[dochira]

krim wrote:

it's kind of funny, he loved Heineken, and now he swears he'll never touch that or anything made/exported from there... and he's gone so far as closed his ING Direct account...

I didn't know ING Direct came from there.

[Tu_triky]

dochira wrote:

I didn't know ING Direct came from there.

ING - International Netherlands Group