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juliana_phang



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Cry this is bad~
i'm not too sure in all these hosting stuff.. but i have a friend who works w/ some hosting company here.. i'll try to ask him whether does he has any good hosting plans to offer
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Genma wrote:
Hey Mixx,Saw several complaints on surpasshosting about server uptime. Know of anyone hosting a big bandwidth site with them? Want to find out more.. (the sales staff haven't replied to me yet)
sorry ive been gone all day, ive emailed my friends for the info this morning but no luck for now, maybe u can try considering elti's suggestion Sweat
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I just read every single reply/post and I can't believe what I'm reading. I visit this site almost everyday and it would be a great shame to have it lost. Although I've no idea about servers or anything, I would do whatever I can to help the Jdorama.com cause. Genma, if there is anything I can do, please PM me. As I've read, donations won't get you very far while finding a new host. But I'll pay whatever I can to keep this site up and running.

Anything else I can do since I can't really recommend a new host? As for now, all I can say is that elt's server, or Ruroshin's may suffice for the required bandwitdth for Jdorama.com. Please keep me posted and I'll do whatever I can.

Oh, and I took the liberty of retyping the topic name in caps with a message for everyone to read. Beaten
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

this doesn't sound good... Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

omg
i cant believe it Sad
i dont know how to help..
but i've registered wif surpasshosting yesterday.,.... (for my sis domain and we will be using less than 50mb)
i purchased the lite hosting plan ( its only 1k MB) Doh!
and jdorama need more!!! Sad
how i wish i could help...
if there is anything i can do, pls tell me Genma!!
i cant live without jdorama Pout Dead Cry


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Genma



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

After some reviewing of hosts... I've sieved out a few options:

1) ev1servers.net
Cost: US$99 per month ($1 startup fee) for a dedicated server
Intel Celeron 1.3 GHz
512 RAM - 60 GB Hard Drive
1000 GB Monthly Transfer
World's largest hosting provider, reliability shouldn't be an issue. Just money...

2) surpasshosting.com
Cost: US$25 per month for shared hosting.
Claims to provide 200gb of bandwidth, but rumoured to be heavily loading their servers and prone to significant downtime. With JDorama.com's bandwidth, its a cheap but risky choice.

3) usonyx.net
Cost: S$99 per month ($300 setup fee) for dedicated server
AMD Duron 1300
512MB DDR-RAM
40GB / 7200 rpm HDD
500 GB bandwidth
Company based in Singapore, but server in USA. Also had rumours of non-existent support..


Hey, please do let me know of any good plans out there.. I'm still searching!
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Genma



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Actually I'm targetting the first option.. if we pool together to share the hosting, anyone wants in? As in, you get to host your site also, for reasonable price and reliable hosting.
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wai



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

comparing 1 and 3, 1 may be better. if help's needed with funds, you can count me in. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

yeah..I think..No.1 is the perfect choice.

Count me in for donation! Mr Green
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Genma wrote:
Actually I'm targetting the first option.. if we pool together to share the hosting, anyone wants in? As in, you get to host your site also, for reasonable price and reliable hosting.


US$99/month
wow
thats a lot of money
how is the payment?? monthly or annually?
and yeah!
count me in for donation too! (but wont be that much(im just a student. i hope u dont mind.)
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juliana_phang



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Akakage wrote:
yeah..I think..No.1 is the perfect choice.

Count me in for donation! Mr Green


me too.. i'm willin to donate to keep jdorama running..
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 11:10 pm    Post subject: Choices Reply with quote Back to top

Genma wrote:
Actually I'm targetting the first option.. if we pool together to share the hosting, anyone wants in? As in, you get to host your site also, for reasonable price and reliable hosting.


Genma, since in the previous 14 months you've received ~$241.65 in donations toward the maintaining the website, it may be unrealistic to expect to be able to raise ~$1200.00 ($99/month), unless you can obtain advertising revenue.

Does the $25 a month option contain a long contract committment? If not, it may be a good short-term solution, to give you enough time to line up donations and advertising funds.

I also have a friend that used to do low-cost hosting, I'll ask him if he still does. PM me the info about the requirements it would take to host Jdorama (HDD space, expected bandwidth requirements, etc). If he still provides hosting services, then you'd be covered for Network Engineering, Security Engineering, and System Engineering support (but not DBA and HTML/XML).

Coincidentally, I work for a company that provides colocation, bandwidth, power, professional services, etc., but it'd be way too expensive to host at my employer! Bonk
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Some advertising would not be too bad. Maybe a trade fund raiser .50 from trades done on the site goes to help support it or something. Not sure that is a good solution either but just another idea to toss on the heap. Bonk

Maybe a combination of everyone's suggestions will help. Mr Green
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

hey those are some good choices but I think a dedicated server is a little unrealistic. I would just try topclasshost since it gives 150gb bandwidth monthly for $99 a year and it supports forums too.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I have to agree with Elton on going with topclasshost. A few people I know have had a great experience with these guys so you know you're getting your best bang for your buck. Great service for less money. Can't really go wrong there.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

pcmodem wrote:
Genma, since in the previous 14 months you've received ~$241.65 in donations toward the maintaining the website, it may be unrealistic to expect to be able to raise ~$1200.00 ($99/month), unless you can obtain advertising revenue.

Does the $25 a month option contain a long contract committment? If not, it may be a good short-term solution, to give you enough time to line up donations and advertising funds.


I'm in the midst of checking for advert revenues. If it goes thru, this funding should be fixed (but not very safe to just depend on just one advertiser).

For the $25 a month option, they host 100 to 500 accounts on P4 or Dual Xeon servers. As opposed to what we have now, less than 10 accounts on QUAD Xeon servers, expect speed to slow down by more than 10 times, coupled by frequent outages. Realistically a site clocking over 100gb of bandwidth per month should not expect good performance on shared hosting. =b Perhaps I'm asking for too much, but the difference really is great.

eightysix wrote:
I have to agree with Elton on going with topclasshost. A few people I know have had a great experience with these guys so you know you're getting your best bang for your buck. Great service for less money. Can't really go wrong there.


150gb as a temp solution may be ok. JDorama is growing steadily.. so I do believe this 150gb limit will be breached pretty soon Sweat Furthermore, on checking up the site, here's what I found:
topclasshost.com wrote:
Please note: Several of the scripts require a MySQL database. You will be limited to 4 MySQL reliant scripts with the HighFlowData-1 package and 8 with the HighFlowData-2 package.


Way off for JDorama.com.. 100% of our scripts are database reliant. Beaten


For me, while still looking for better hosts, I'm checking for advertisers. Preference is still a dedicated server. (you know guys, if we make this move, it gives lots of room for potential site upgrades too)
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

u could also put (associate things) CDJapan, YesAsia and amazon to join the PayPal button~

i'm sure everyone here uses amazon, and some YesAsia (i know i use it at least once a month^^*)




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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

oh no.. i've been gone for a couple of days and this happens..! i don't know about all these hosting stuff, but just with all the concerned jdorama-ers here we will be able to come up with a solution.. ganbatte genma! i love this site and i really don't want it to go down.. Bow
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Crap. Hope the whole thing works out.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Genma wrote:
For me, while still looking for better hosts, I'm checking for advertisers. Preference is still a dedicated server. (you know guys, if we make this move, it gives lots of room for potential site upgrades too)


Oh no Genma. Please don't let this site down. I'm an addict to this site and I'm not finish learning Japanese from you guys. Beaten
I'm not really sure about the webhost but from those 3; I'll go for a reliable ones (ev1servers.net) less downtime and a reliable support (from what i've heard and from those 3 choices)
As for the money, I'll go for the membership idea (you can't really rely on only the ads for $99/mo either IMO...) Well, donations through paypal is hard for some countries where paypal doesn't exist. Beaten
For ads, please don't go for the annoying ones. (with pop ups and stuffs flying on your screen)
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