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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

eltinator wrote:
Best thing is to use the search feature above. I'm a bit skeptical to how it works though, since I don't do much searching myself hehe hehe

It would be much nicer if the search function were powered by Google... The current search function bites the big one to no end. Shake Head
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bmwracer wrote:

It would be much nicer if the search function were powered by Google... The current search function bites the big one to no end. Shake Head


Yea google should do the search. It'd be free advertisment for them too hehe hehe
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I think Genma is working on that.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 2:07 am    Post subject: Re: the moderator ? Reply with quote Back to top

Akakage wrote:
I'm just trying to be hyperbolic..hehehe.. hehe Too many hours sitting in a building with so many glasses.

Beaten

Hyperbolic?

Not parabolic? Or asymptotic? hehe
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Personally, I wish the mods would start deleting the locked threads, rather than just leaving them up. Locked threads serve absolutely no purpose other than to occupy space in the MySQL database on JDorama.com. Deleting threads of this type is in no way censorship of any kind, so it's okay to do so because maintaining policy is not censorship. If all the locked threads were removed, that would free up quite a few bytes of space in the MySQL tables (based on the # of posts currently available), and more likely speed up JDorama.com's overall performance.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

groink wrote:
Personally, I wish the mods would start deleting the locked threads, rather than just leaving them up. Locked threads serve absolutely no purpose other than to occupy space in the MySQL database on JDorama.com. Deleting threads of this type is in no way censorship of any kind, so it's okay to do so because maintaining policy is not censorship. If all the locked threads were removed, that would free up quite a few bytes of space in the MySQL tables (based on the # of posts currently available), and more likely speed up JDorama.com's overall performance.

--- groink


I agree with groink on this one. Locked threads just more clutter that fills up the board. But the problem with deleting some locked threads is that they might contain information that could be potentially helpful to other people, but the thread was locked due to flaming. Perhaps only the posts with flames should be deleted to somehow salvage the thread.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

eightysix wrote:


I agree with groink on this one. Locked threads just more clutter that fills up the board. But the problem with deleting some locked threads is that they might contain information that could be potentially helpful to other people, but the thread was locked due to flaming. Perhaps only the posts with flames should be deleted to somehow salvage the thread.


My experience with locked vs deleted threads is that deleted threads piss people off more. At least with locked threads the person who made a mistake knows that they made a mistake but with a deleted thread it's just entirely gone so they don't have any idea what happened so they either post it again or get pissed off. At least that's how it went at Noated. Maybe there could be a script to auto delete certain locked threads after so many days.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

groink wrote:
Personally, I wish the mods would start deleting the locked threads, rather than just leaving them up. Locked threads serve absolutely no purpose other than to occupy space in the MySQL database on JDorama.com. Deleting threads of this type is in no way censorship of any kind, so it's okay to do so because maintaining policy is not censorship. If all the locked threads were removed, that would free up quite a few bytes of space in the MySQL tables (based on the # of posts currently available), and more likely speed up JDorama.com's overall performance.

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I agree with you groink. They don't serve any purpose except take up space. I asked Genma about that, but per the admin, he just told us to leave them because eventually they'll get pushed back to the last pages. (I don't know, maybe because it affects post counts or something?? Or perhaps he doesn't want the dialogue to disappear because it could be something to refer back to??)


On another note,
Hey Arashi, do you think it'll be more appropriate to move this topic to General?! Since we're not really talking about artistes or anything... Sweat
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

groink wrote:
Personally, I wish the mods would start deleting the locked threads, rather than just leaving them up. Locked threads serve absolutely no purpose other than to occupy space in the MySQL database on JDorama.com. Deleting threads of this type is in no way censorship of any kind, so it's okay to do so because maintaining policy is not censorship. If all the locked threads were removed, that would free up quite a few bytes of space in the MySQL tables (based on the # of posts currently available), and more likely speed up JDorama.com's overall performance.

--- groink


I agree...so when I became mod, niko and I did a TON of deleting in BST, probably about 5-10 pages worth of stuff dating back to 2001, because in BST, posts that old really are NOT needed. Someone looking for a trade back in 2001 or 2002 probably found what they were looking for or gave up hehe

And also, when I lock threads, I tend to put "locking pending deletion", because I'd like to give those a chance to see why I did it rather than having the post just disappear, because they'll just post it again Doh!

But, deleting posts DOES affect member post numbers. So I have more discretion when deleting now. Plus Genma seems to prefer locking over deleting. But it happens to be in my section that many posts aren't worth keeping up since people buy sell and trade all the time. So the posts there "age" quickly Sweat

Well, now the thread locking issue won't be so much of an issue anymore because we got Genma to add a merge function a few days ago Mr Green Without merging, redundant threads would be quickly locked.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Interesting....

I don't want to seem like I'm trying to set policy/procedures here, so here's my suggestion... When a thread is in question, and the conversation is not productive in any way, first PM the creator of the thread, explaining what he did wrong. Also, tell him that you're going to kill the thread. After sending the PM, then kill the thread. Then this way, the member knows what he did wrong, as well as having the thread killed. I did this exact exercise when I was a mod on D-Addicts.

I wasn't suggesting killing ALL locked threads... Kill only the threads that have absolutely no productive value. For example, yesterday someone created yet a 3rd Hikawa Kiyoshi thread. Because only the original post and my reply correcting the situation was posted, that thread should've been killed. I think Genma chose certain members to be moderators for their judgment skills, and they should be able to determine without difficulty what's inappropriate, and what's not productive.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

groink wrote:
Interesting....

I don't want to seem like I'm trying to set policy/procedures here, so here's my suggestion... When a thread is in question, and the conversation is not productive in any way, first PM the creator of the thread, explaining what he did wrong. Also, tell him that you're going to kill the thread. After sending the PM, then kill the thread. Then this way, the member knows what he did wrong, as well as having the thread killed. I did this exact exercise when I was a mod on D-Addicts.

That sounds like a good idea. Smile
I think I'll start practicing that from now on to help avoid any misconceptions and whatnot.

Genma wrote:
I think Genma chose certain members to be moderators for their judgment skills, and they should be able to determine without difficulty what's inappropriate, and what's not productive.

True, but if it goes against the admin's wishes, then we can't do much about it.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Helene wrote:
I'm not mad at anyone, I'm cool ! It's just that I'm not supposed to know that one thread or another is a repeat ; I don't have time to read every topic and every answer of the forum .
About the addresses, If I asked you here, it is because I have searched on the internet ( official sites included ) and I didn't find what I am looking for .
Another question : why can't we send presents to the Japanese artists ?


i'm glad you're alright with this.. there is a introduction thread at the top of theartistes forum which i'm sure you know about, and that has all the links of the artistes who have official threads.. ^^

well, for johnny's jimusho artistes, any mail that contains presents will be sent back to the sender as they do not accept presents, only fanletters..

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On another note,
Hey Arashi, do you think it'll be more appropriate to move this topic to General?! Since we're not really talking about artistes or anything...


yup, i'll move this thread to the feedback, perhaps more appropriate there.. thought i might close when the trouble is cleared, but the topic has gone on to something else.. hehe
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 12:53 am    Post subject: PLZ BEFORE REMOVING A THREAD OR CHANGING PLACE READ IT! Reply with quote Back to top

ive put a thread in " discussion about jdrama"
about looking for pride SEEDS that means a TORRENT.
i come back 2 minutes after to look if anyone replied...
no more thread?? O_o what the heck?
Then i looked for it, and saw it under SELL OR TRADE.
IM NOT LOOKING for selling or trading.

So before moving a post plz READ IT.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Well, actually, juliana had a reason to move it to my section (BST). Japanese drama discussions are for discussing plots for dramas and the like. Buy Sell Trade deals with anything about getting dramas in any manner whether online trade, BT, Streamload, mail trade, sales, etc. In BST we have a sticky thread for requesting seeds for torrents. It's right here: http://jdorama.com/viewtopic.1680.htm That is where I put your thread once jules moved it.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

BT is a way of trading. So there is a thread for BT seeds under that forum, which is probably why your post got moved there.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

dont get mad, have u read the guidelines first? =T
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 12:21 pm    Post subject: Re: PLZ BEFORE REMOVING A THREAD OR CHANGING PLACE READ IT! Reply with quote Back to top

sofy wrote:
ive put a thread in " discussion about jdrama"
about looking for pride SEEDS that means a TORRENT.
i come back 2 minutes after to look if anyone replied...
no more thread?? O_o what the heck?
Then i looked for it, and saw it under SELL OR TRADE.
IM NOT LOOKING for selling or trading.

So before moving a post plz READ IT.
Mad


I've merged this topic with our existing "The Moderators?" thread.
Perhaps I should change the title to something that would describe comments of this nature?

...............................

Done. Hopefully no one uses this thread to flame us to pieces.... Sweat
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

i'm glad we have this thread now.. allows the members to voice their displeasure about thread closing and duplicate topics and gives the mods a chance to explain themselves.. ^^ aho, perhaps changing it to make it sound like a complaint thread will be suitable and everyone would know what's it for.. Mr Green Sweat
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

arashinokoto wrote:
i'm glad we have this thread now.. allows the members to voice their displeasure about thread closing and duplicate topics and gives the mods a chance to explain themselves.. ^^ aho, perhaps changing it to make it sound like a complaint thread will be suitable and everyone would know what's it for.. Mr Green Sweat

I didn't want to change it to anything in the "complaint" nature.
By doing so, subliminally users will post in accordance to the topic's title nature. I just figured that we don't need full on flames. Rather, concerns, and/or constructive critism was more in the borders that I had in mind... Sweat
Mods, any suggestions? Users?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I changed the wording a bit.
How is it now as compared to the previous title? (The Moderators? - Comments, Suggestions?!
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