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Akakage
Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 9069 Location: Neverland
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 11:51 am Post subject: |
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bmwracer wrote: | Heh. I was wondering when ol' Russell's name would come up after I mentioned The Joy Luck Club... |
It was me who mentioned his name first.. after you post abt Joy Luck Club. It's all your fault now..
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bmwracer
Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Posts: 125547 Location: Juri-chan's speed dial Country: |
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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Akakage wrote: | It was me who mentioned his name first.. after you post abt Joy Luck Club. It's all your fault now.. |
Gomen.
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Akakage
Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 9069 Location: Neverland
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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bmwracer wrote: |
Gomen. |
That's ok ..the girls are all over him now..hehehehe..thanks to you for reminding his existence. I've heard that he's now in a movie with Ashley Judd and Andy Garcia called "Twisted". I've no seen it yet, but I think it's something that I should check for the sake of Russell.
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bmwracer
Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Posts: 125547 Location: Juri-chan's speed dial Country: |
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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Akakage wrote: | That's ok ..the girls are all over him now..hehehehe..thanks to you for reminding his existence. I've heard that he's now in a movie with Ashley Judd and Andy Garcia called "Twisted". I've no seen it yet, but I think it's something that I should check for the sake of Russell. |
That movie open here in the States a while back and it tanked, I believe.
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TANG
Joined: 01 Apr 2004 Posts: 1170 Location: New York City Country: |
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eltinator
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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bmwracer wrote: |
That movie open here in the States a while back and it tanked, I believe. |
Twisted? Yea I never even heard of it, musta tanked badly then
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Hijikata
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Akakage
Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 9069 Location: Neverland
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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marecore wrote: | OMG!
this is like..so...
true
Girls are too complicated they say they want the understanding, smart guy...but they go for the jerk that beat people like that up...as taken from the article "Girls are liars." |
Only stupid girls would do that! and I'm not one of them.
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KouSeiya315
Joined: 14 Dec 2001 Posts: 1837 Location: United States Country: |
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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niko2x wrote: | makes a damn funny read. man, someone is BIT-TER! hope he finds someone, anyone, so his bittterness can come down a bit. (is that even possible?) |
Yeah, he does sound pretty damn bitter, but I got a kick out of the read although I can't relate I just kinda think he's looking too deeply into it and/or talking about people being shallow for not dating Asian guys. My take on it: Yeah there are shallow people out there. But....who you date, it's a matter of who you find attractive and how they treat you. Attractiveness obviously comes first, before you know them. We can't get around that fact! Some people find some people of certain races as more physically attractive than others.
I don't see it as necessarily shallow or racist per se, if it's based purely on physical attraction before they know each other and NOT "I wanna date a white man because they have money and treat me good" because that would be stereotyping and wouldn't necessarily be accurate (all races have bad apples!). Maybe partly it can be seen that way. If it is racist and shallow, then I would say a large amount of the population is! LOL
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marecore
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niko2x
Joined: 24 Jun 2002 Posts: 4009 Location: East Coast, US Country: |
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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KouSeiya315 wrote: | Yeah, he does sound pretty damn bitter, but I got a kick out of the read although I can't relate I just kinda think he's looking too deeply into it and/or talking about people being shallow for not dating Asian guys. My take on it: Yeah there are shallow people out there. But....who you date, it's a matter of who you find attractive and how they treat you. Attractiveness obviously comes first, before you know them. We can't get around that fact! Some people find some people of certain races as more physically attractive than others.
I don't see it as necessarily shallow or racist per se, if it's based purely on physical attraction before they know each other and NOT "I wanna date a white man because they have money and treat me good" because that would be stereotyping and wouldn't necessarily be accurate (all races have bad apples!). Maybe partly it can be seen that way. If it is racist and shallow, then I would say a large amount of the population is! LOL | hey did you notice that the ection on babes (http://stuffthatisawesome.tripod.com/awesome/id5.html), all the girls in there are whiteys? would this make him (in his own words) a traitor? Maybe he's just getting lonely and tired of "taking care of his own business."
As far as trying the other "taste of race", i think it's human nature to try different things, which may include going out with people of differnt background. No way in hell when i was going to school i would have gone out with an asian, simply because: EVERY frickin time an asian girl pass by, my dumb a$$ boys'd say "hey, niko. that chinese girls over there (doesn't matter she as chinese or not, as long as her eyes were slanted, she was chinese) you should hook her up. no matter if she was hot or hurting, fat or thin, smart or a pole; the fact that she was 'chinese' was ok for me. i'd be like, F that. so if you were black (most/all of my boys were that) do i get on your case about all the black poon? so it wasn't until i went to JPN that i start to go out with asian girls. So i guess in a way, i kinda missed out on all the american born asian and all of their complexities. If that makes me a shallow, i guess my name would be hal.
- shallow hal out _________________
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niko2x
Joined: 24 Jun 2002 Posts: 4009 Location: East Coast, US Country: |
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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marecore wrote: | Girls are too complicated they say they want the understanding, smart guy...but they go for the jerk that beat people like that up...as taken from the article "Girls are liars." | i find that a lot of girls here in america (altho i hate to generalize) like to go for the "bad-boy" type, which makes sense in the above mentioned Cops TV series, you have all these people beating up on their wives (blk, white, yellow, whatever). Seems that nice guys do finish last, so why not change your style to mr. nice guy to billy-badass? Anyone agrees/disagree?
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bmwracer
Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Posts: 125547 Location: Juri-chan's speed dial Country: |
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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niko2x wrote: | i find that a lot of girls here in america (altho i hate to generalize) like to go for the "bad-boy" type, which makes sense in the above mentioned Cops TV series, you have all these people beating up on their wives (blk, white, yellow, whatever). Seems that nice guys do finish last, so why not change your style to mr. nice guy to billy-badass? Anyone agrees/disagree? |
I don't think there are pure Mr. Nice Guys out there... Each guy (and girl, for that matter) has their dark side... It just depends how bad...
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Akakage
Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 9069 Location: Neverland
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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bmwracer wrote: |
I don't think there are pure Mr. Nice Guys out there... Each guy (and girl, for that matter) has their dark side... It just depends how bad... |
You got that right sir! If there's a guy who's too too nice, I might find it a bit odd.. Nobody's perfect in this world, however "bad boy" type is not on my list.
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KouSeiya315
Joined: 14 Dec 2001 Posts: 1837 Location: United States Country: |
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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niko2x wrote: | hey did you notice that the ection on babes (http://stuffthatisawesome.tripod.com/awesome/id5.html), all the girls in there are whiteys? would this make him (in his own words) a traitor? Maybe he's just getting lonely and tired of "taking care of his own business." |
Yeah, that was what I was wondering about. He's saying NO girls go out with Asians, but that Asian girls are traitors. WTF?
niko2x wrote: | As far as trying the other "taste of race", i think it's human nature to try different things, which may include going out with people of differnt background. No way in hell when i was going to school i would have gone out with an asian, simply because: EVERY frickin time an asian girl pass by, my dumb a$$ boys'd say "hey, niko. that chinese girls over there (doesn't matter she as chinese or not, as long as her eyes were slanted, she was chinese) you should hook her up. no matter if she was hot or hurting, fat or thin, smart or a pole; the fact that she was 'chinese' was ok for me. i'd be like, F that. so if you were black (most/all of my boys were that) do i get on your case about all the black poon? so it wasn't until i went to JPN that i start to go out with asian girls. So i guess in a way, i kinda missed out on all the american born asian and all of their complexities. If that makes me a shallow, i guess my name would be hal.
- shallow hal out |
Everyone is shallow to some extent, so that was kinda my point I've only dated 3 different races, but it was based if they were attractive. I don't care what race someone is as long as they are hot and then treat ya good.....and aren't some loser-bum-ass criminal.
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kairyu
Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 12 Location: Japan Country: |
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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I hear ya guys on the Joy Luck Club stuff. Someone mentioned to me that there has been criticism of Amy Tan and Maxine Hong Kingston's works being so readily published becuase it reinforces the "white man" owned publishers tastes.
Funny article, but living in Japan has made me realize Japanese women find Japanese men plenty attractive. Of course there are a bunch of "hakujin" fans, but if you live in Japan long enough you will see that there are plenty of Japanese men here women find dateable. Unfortunately Western culture has a way of making it seem like only the white male is a desirable sex object at the same time concealing how this is a cultural specific and consciously constructed ideal. It takes a lot of patroling and maintainance to only produce images of a passive immasculated Asian men. And when Hollywood finds a macho martial arts Asian, he gets denied any love scenes with his white female actresses.
This isn't to say that the white guy isn't still idolized here in Japan, but at least Japanese men aren't stereotyped in their own country.
My point is that God doesn't have it out for "us", its the white man pretending he's god. (thus tv, movies, videos, novels, and textbooks in the West depict a whiteman's "ideal" , not necessarily whats really out there)
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Akakage
Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 9069 Location: Neverland
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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KouSeiya315 wrote: |
Everyone is shallow to some extent, so that was kinda my point I've only dated 3 different races, but it was based if they were attractive. I don't care what race someone is as long as they are hot and then treat ya good.....and aren't some loser-bum-ass criminal. |
I agree!
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