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sangmin
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ahochaude
Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 10291 Location: Matsuhama-cho, Ashiya-shi, Hyogo-ken, Japan Country: |
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 7:41 am Post subject: Re: chinsengumi |
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sangmin wrote: | whos seen that show its so interesting and its funny! it comes out on sat on ch.18 at 9:00. whosever seen it for the past two weeks please tell me what happened |
Are you speaking of the Taiga drama Shinsengumi? _________________
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Akakage
Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 9069 Location: Neverland
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ahochaude
Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 10291 Location: Matsuhama-cho, Ashiya-shi, Hyogo-ken, Japan Country: |
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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Akakage wrote: | I think it's shinsengumi. I've been following it through episode 8 from NHK. |
heh, you guys have it in Indonesia already?
We don't get it until the 23rd (March) in Hawaii.........................
-Is it good?! _________________
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The Man
Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 1249 Location: USA Country: |
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 3:31 pm Post subject: How many episodes? |
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Anybody KNOW how long Shinsengumi's supposed to last? I got reading I gotta do .
From my point of view, BMWRacer's Musashi synopses alone make him a trustworthy assessor of Taiga dramas. And, while I do appreciate his comments (mostly bad ones) on this second Shinsengumi series, being that it's a Koki Mitani production and, when you think about it, that the tale of the Shinsengumi is open to interpretation -- I mean, for starters, compare the previous Shinsengumi series' treatment of that one episode concerning that gay, efficiently lethal samurai with 1999's Gohatto (A.K.A. Taboo, featuring Tadanobu Asano, Masuto Eve, Uno Handa, Koji Matoba, Ryunei Matsuda, Yoichi Sai, Shinji Takeda [do I get the award for "most mentions of Shinji Takeda by a posteur in a single week," or what?], Beat Takeshi, Hazuko Yoshiyuhi, et al.) -- perhaps this current series is worth a look past its initial episodes.
Indeed, perhaps the reason why we've been deluged with Shinsengumi TV and movies so recently (over, what, 10 years?) is BECAUSE it's a story that's just dying (pardon the pun) to be told in different ways.
Yeah, can't wait for it to show here on the aina.
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bmwracer
Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Posts: 125547 Location: Juri-chan's speed dial Country: |
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 3:49 pm Post subject: Re: How many episodes? |
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The Man wrote: | Anybody KNOW how long Shinsengumi's supposed to last? I got reading I gotta do . |
Aren't the NHK Taiga dramas pretty lengthy? It could be another year-long series like Musashi...
Quote: | From my point of view, BMWRacer's Musashi synopses alone make him a trustworthy assessor of Taiga dramas. And, while I do appreciate his comments (mostly bad ones) on this second Shinsengumi series, being that it's a Koki Mitani production and, when you think about it, the tale of the Shinsengumi is open to interpretation |
Thanks for the props, but I can't take that much credit... It's just that I've seen and read various Musashi movies/stories over the years, so I'm pretty well versed on that topic... I don't know diddly about the Shinsengumi story, and this series seems to be tongue-and-cheek about it, so...........
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ahochaude
Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 10291 Location: Matsuhama-cho, Ashiya-shi, Hyogo-ken, Japan Country: |
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 7:26 am Post subject: |
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ahochaude wrote: | -Is it good?! |
Just watched it last nite. Too much slapstick.
(IMO)IT SUCKS!!!!!!! *raspberry* _________________
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Akakage
Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 9069 Location: Neverland
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 8:17 am Post subject: |
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ahochaude wrote: |
heh, you guys have it in Indonesia already?
We don't get it until the 23rd (March) in Hawaii.........................
-Is it good?! |
Directly from NHK ...cable TV! woo hoo!
Good? yeah..got so many HOT HOT GUYS!!!!
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The Man
Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 1249 Location: USA Country: |
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 8:24 am Post subject: Koki Mitani's "Shinsengumi" |
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Too slapstick? No way, this show is good.
I actually don't know where to start, this show is so good. I gotta watch this show again. I GOTTA WATCH THIS SHOW AGAIN.
There's a lot . . . I don't think I've ever experienced a Taiga drama like this one. Or any drama, in fact.
You'll be amused and yearn to see why there are so many Assistant Executive Officers in the Shinsengumi, how few other samurai shows (if any; oh, I take that back. Samurai Fiction did a good job) make us smile -- or laugh -- and shake our heads when a Shinsengumi officer addresses how his fighting style also makes him eligible for a night of drinking, too, how fighting over robes and armor, how "insult[ing] Edo food" can lead to opportunity, how a statesman waxes Japan's future and its options while the Star Spangled Banner plays in the background, all fits. The fact that you have a premonition it all will (despite what you know previously about Shinsengumi) is a great thing.
I'm not embarrassed that I didn't get all of the names once they were introduced because this drama shows how an ensemble cast should be part of the whole production. There are things going on all the time in each scene and you really can't take your eyes off the show for one second, and the best thing about that is you don't want to take your eyes off the screen once you start watching this show. Indeed, the writers of this Shinsengumi must have HBO as this show reminded me of curt dialogue and involved mood that The Sopranos similarly accords.
There is a better sense of camraderie in this rendition of the Shinsengumi than the previous one (which, while great in its own way, made those guys look like they were working in an office or something).
I make no apologies. There is a lot to look at and take in and, above all, ENJOY when you're watching this show. Doesn't hurt that Battle Royale alumni are part of this show, too. I GOTTA WATCH THIS SHOW AGAIN and it's a great thing that KIKU-TV in Hawaii's gonna show this program twice a week (Tuesdays and Sundays).
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groink
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 Posts: 1223
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 8:28 am Post subject: Re: Koki Mitani's "Shinsengumi" |
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The Man wrote: | Too slapstick? No way, this show is good. |
Interesting! I did capture episode 1, however based on the previous comments about the series, I thought it wouldn't be worth the higher resolution MPEG-2, so I ended just capturing it to MPEG-1. I'll probably capture the entire series in MPEG-1.
--- groink
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Itazura ichiban
Joined: 25 Mar 2004 Posts: 916 Location: SF Bay Area Country: |
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MixxDreamer
Joined: 06 May 2003 Posts: 3779 Location: so. cali, USA Country: |
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Akakage
Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 9069 Location: Neverland
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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MixxDreamer wrote: | my friend is telling me about this, is this the one with jo odagiri?? i have a feeling they play this on saturday.. sheesh to think that my mom hogs the tv all the time whenever im home over the weekends |
Yup..he's in taking the role as a spy.
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thetenken
Joined: 08 Nov 2003 Posts: 435 Location: USA Country: |
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bmwracer
Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Posts: 125547 Location: Juri-chan's speed dial Country: |
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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Itazura ichiban wrote: | We're watching KTSF in San Francisco, and a show called Shinsengumi is on, but it's not particularly funny. Guess it's an OK taiga, but after Musashi, sorry... hard act to follow, you know? |
Good point. Very good point.
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bmwracer
Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Posts: 125547 Location: Juri-chan's speed dial Country: |
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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thetenken wrote: | Well, a serious Shinsengumi drama probably would've been great (more like Mibu Gishiden). I had such good expectations for the series, until I heard Shingo-mama was going to be Kondo. Then I had a very bad feeling... =) |
My thoughts exactly. If they played it totally serious, I would've bought into it, but the funny business and silliness turned me off.
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The Man
Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 1249 Location: USA Country: |
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 3:46 pm Post subject: Compare and contrast Shinsengumi w/the Untouchables! |
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I'll offer the following and the know-it-alls can derail or enhance mine explanation:
The latter part of the 1800s saw Japan in turmoil: amongst the shock introduction of foreign element (the U.S. [black, ships, Commodore Perry, et al.], yeaaaaaahhhh!!!!) into Japan after centuries of it not having occurred, there were: 1) samurai that wanted to put the emperor back into power by beating down the Shogun; and, you guessed it, 2) there were samurai that were down with the Shogun.
So, lotta evil, murderous stuff was occurring all over Japan at that time . . . and you'd be a damn fool if you were to commit some o' that wanton violence in Kyoto because, if this wanton violence were liquor, then the Shinsengumi'd be Kyoto's equivalent to 1920s Chicago's Eliot Ness and the Untouchables because the former kept the peace there. They had light blue robes and banners and an unforgiving slash of violence to identify them.
The Shinsengumi were for real. There were hundreds of 'em.
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Akakage
Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 9069 Location: Neverland
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bmwracer
Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Posts: 125547 Location: Juri-chan's speed dial Country: |
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 11:05 pm Post subject: Re: Compare and contrast Shinsengumi w/the Untouchables! |
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The Man wrote: | I'll offer the following and the know-it-alls can derail or enhance mine explanation:
The latter part of the 1800s saw Japan in turmoil: amongst the shock introduction of foreign element (the U.S. [black, ships, Commodore Perry, et al.], yeaaaaaahhhh!!!!) into Japan after centuries of it not having occurred, there were: 1) samurai that wanted to put the emperor back into power by beating down the Shogun; and, you guessed it, 2) there were samurai that were down with the Shogun.
So, lotta evil, murderous stuff was occurring all over Japan at that time . . . and you'd be a damn fool if you were to commit some o' that wanton violence in Kyoto because, if this wanton violence were liquor, then the Shinsengumi'd be Kyoto's equivalent to 1920s Chicago's Eliot Ness and the Untouchables because the former kept the peace there. They had light blue robes and banners and an unforgiving slash of violence to identify them.
The Shinsengumi were for real. There were hundreds of 'em. |
That sounds pretty damn good. Anybody wanna recommend a book or two about this group?? Or maybe another series/movie about this clandestine group?
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