hey eternal listen to BEDI ...bedi knows ALOT more than i do...
like badi said... katana is a sword... KATAKANA (this is katakana ���^�V..notice it uses straight-lines and is very riggid) is a writing style used for foreign words..... HIARAGANA (this is hiragana �킽��... notice its curved and flows gently) is used for native japanese words...
and KANJI (this is kanji ��.. they are chinese characters )..well kanji is just wierd like bedi said TRY NOT TO USE MUCH WHEN UR LEARNING... u'll end up getting confused like i did.... just take it nice and easy....

BTW i'm barely learing japanese also..... so we could learn together!
GANBATTE KUDASAI

okay then,so you guys advise me to learn what i see ,right?

Well,so next question is,if i ever come across any articles written in japanese words,it is possible that katana,kanji,and hiragana words were used to compose it?


�� �� �� �� �� �� �� �� �� �� Anyone,is this correct form of kanji in "arrigato gozaimasu"?

eternal wrote:

�� �� �� �� �� �� �� �� �� �� Anyone,is this correct form of kanji in "arrigato gozaimasu"?

You only need (1) "R" in "Arigatou".

The small "tsu" is irrelevant.

And you mean, hiragana, rather than Kanji.

PaulTB wrote:

According to my Japanese teacher (slightly tongue in cheek) there's nothing you can't get from somebody Japanese by bowing deeply enough and repeating 'onegaishimasu' until their resistance wears down. I don't think 'kudasai' would work in the same way.

You're right. Kudasai is not as "effective" as Onegaiittashimasu (with bowing).

But it doesn't get you all that you ask for.....

(Reading your sentence, "There's nothing you can't get from somebody Japanese by bowing deeply enough and repeating 'onegaishimasu' until their resistance wears down.")

Only some things you can get by using such (not everything, like you mentioned above)..................

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KATAKANA (this is katakana ���^�V..notice it uses straight-lines and is very riggid) is a writing style used for foreign words..... HIARAGANA (this is hiragana �킽��... notice its curved and flows gently) is used for native japanese words... edit: and grammatical issues and KANJI (this is kanji.. they are chinese characters )

Nice explanation

and be careful eternal You are still writing katana it's KATAKANA. Don't remeber the wrong version from the beginning.

Well I know how to type in Japanese, but which button is for the letter "O" not the normal like in Otousan --->"��", but the "O" like in "jdorama o mimasu"

Evilryu wrote:

Well I know how to type in Japanese, but which button is for the letter "O" not the normal like in Otousan --->"��", but the "O" like in "jdorama o mimasu"

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This �h���h? Simple, just type, "wo".

thanks a lot, but why is it "wo"?

it just is.... its a relational particle.... but yeah ahochaude is right it is wo .... just like watashi wa.. its actualy 'ha' damn sentence particles!!!! that's the one thing that really screwed me up in japanese... and besides most regular ppl in japan just skip partcles in daily speech -_-"

Evilryu wrote:

thanks a lot, but why is it "wo"?

It's written 'wo' because it used to be said 'wo'.

If you listen carefully to songs you'll sometimes find it still is
(although songs are about the only place for that).

PaulTB wrote:

It's written 'wo' because it used to be said 'wo'.

In which "wo" is still used in textbooks on learning Japanese nowadays.
And not to mention, initially still being teached at classrooms as the way to spell/recognize it also.

what about windows me........?

amran wrote:

what about windows me........?

Not quite sure. But I don't think it's possible with Windows ME. My gf has a comp with Windows ME, but she's from Japan and so is the comp. Have you applied the instructions above? If it still don't work, then that's why I think the maker of this thread specifically posted only Windows 2000 and Windows XP.

Good luck

ahochaude wrote:

Not quite sure. But I don't think it's possible with Windows ME.

It is possible with Windows ME.

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My gf has a comp with Windows ME, but she's from Japan and so is the comp. Have you applied the instructions above?

Don't bother - they won't work.

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If it still don't work, then that's why I think the maker of this thread specifically posted only Windows 2000 and Windows XP.

The necessary instructions are different for Windows 2000 and XP.

Windows 95, 98 and ME use MS Global IME 5
(Unless you have installed Office XP or 2003).

Whatever Windows version you have,
http://www.declan-software.com/japanese_ime/
is a good place to start.

PaulTB wrote:

It is possible with Windows ME.

Like I said, I wasn't sure about that.

PaulTB wrote:

Don't bother - they won't work.

Guess not.

PaulTB wrote:

The necessary instructions are different for Windows 2000 and XP. Windows 95, 98 and ME use MS Global IME 5 (Unless you have installed Office XP or 2003). Whatever Windows version you have, http://www.declan-software.com/japanese_ime/ is a good place to start.

Thanks dude!

ahochaude wrote:

In which "wo" is still used in textbooks on learning Japanese nowadays. And not to mention, initially still being teached at classrooms as the way to spell/recognize it also.

There are two different questions here.

There is the question as to why the particle �� is different to the kana ��, which is what I was talking about.

There is also the use of 'o' vs 'wo' in romaji - in Western textbooks and classes outside of Japan you are more likely to encounter romaji systems that use 'o' than 'wo'. In Japan romaji systems with 'wo' are more commonly used.

It's not really a matter of 'still' as there is no sign of one system or the other going away any time soon.

If any system is likely to triumph it will most likely be ���[�v���E���[�}��, which combines all systems wherever possible (for example si shi both work for ��, and has combinations for katakana not (to my knowledge) distinguished in any formal romaji system. For example 'thi' for �e�B. ('ti' could of course be confused with �` while 'tei' would be '�e�C').

In ���[�v���E���[�}�� '��' is, of course, entered as 'wo'.

PaulTB wrote:

There are two different questions here. There is the question as to why the particle �� is different to the kana ��, which is what I was talking about. There is also the use of 'o' vs 'wo' in romaji - in Western textbooks and classes outside of Japan you are more likely to encounter romaji systems that use 'o' than 'wo'. In Japan romaji systems with 'wo' are more commonly used. It's not really a matter of 'still' as there is no sign of one system or the other going away any time soon. If any system is likely to triumph it will most likely be ���[�v���E���[�}��, which combines all systems wherever possible (for example si shi both work for ��, and has combinations for katakana not (to my knowledge) distinguished in any formal romaji system. For example 'thi' for �e�B. ('ti' could of course be confused with �` while 'tei' would be '�e�C'). In ���[�v���E���[�}�� '��' is, of course, entered as 'wo'.

Naruhodo.

Thanks for clearing it all up for us!

I am quite new to typing Japanese on the computer. From what I see, you basically type 'romaji' for your words. Many times people stress on how they hate seeing 'romaji'. However, if this is the only way to type Japanese, then it IS somewhat essential to be comfortable with 'romaji' if you want to use Japanese on the computer. Am I right on this? Or are there other ways to type Japanese?

Also, if we type Japanese on our keyboard through 'romaji', do the Japanese also learn typing this way? May sound like a dumb question, but I'm just curious..
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Japanese input keyboards have hiragana instead of the western alphabet. So they can just type in the words accordingly.

Otherwise, I believe you can type in a character according to it's unicode designation.

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