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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

SubaruWRX wrote:
Since the town I live in has a few Japanese my doctor who is Japanese had alot of young kids to see.

it seems like most are moving from Japan and having kids here...

But then if you think about it, the Child is not a Japanese citizen.

If both parents are Japanese and the child is registered in the family registry, then wouldn't he/she be a Japanese citizen? Head Scratch
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

dochira wrote:
If both parents are Japanese and the child is registered in the family registry, then wouldn't he/she be a Japanese citizen? Head Scratch
yep.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

But wont the Child be Japanese-American?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I second that. You're absolutely right dochira Thumbsup.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

everyone is right but me....
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

SubaruWRX wrote:
But wont the Child be Japanese-American?


No. If both parents are Japanese the parents have up to 3 months after the birth to declare or register the child's birth in Japan. The child is a Japanese citizen. Up until the child is 20 years of age they can have dual citizenship (if desired and if the country they were born in accepts dual citizenship). After the age of 20 they have to decide what country's citizenship they want. At least that is my understanding of the law. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

SO then I was somewhat right then?

So question is why don't they want to have kids in the first place?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

SubaruWRX wrote:
everyone is right but me....

You're correct. By place of birth, the child would also be an American citizen, but as niko pointed out to me, the child would choose at 18.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

SubaruWRX wrote:
So question is why don't they want to have kids in the first place?
s. korea is having the same problem as well. nowadays a lot of women there tend to marry later. and also add to the fact that some women may choose a career over having a family as well.

right or wrong, having kids are a LOT of work, some may say it's the hardest occupation there is. being that there are too much life to live out there and not enough immediate incentives to having kids, couple with the fact that 'women power'is a LOT more potent then in the edo period of japan, may factor into one of the lowest birth rates in the world.

For any who disagree, you may shoot me now. Mr Green

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

SubaruWRX wrote:
SO then I was somewhat right then?

So question is why don't they want to have kids in the first place?


Thanks dochira on that clarification.

Here are some reasons for the Japanese birth decline that I found at the Japan Today website:

How to stem birthrate decline


Japan's fertility rate (average number of children born per woman) fell to an all-time low of 1.29 in 2004, the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare announced last month. Japanese population growth has been sluggish in recent years due to insufficient childrearing-support measures offered by companies and greater opportunities for higher education, which is tempting people to pursue careers while postponing marriage.

The falling birth rate is particularly conspicuous among women age 29 and under. The trend slows between the ages of 30 and 34, but then increases for women 35 and older.

Japan's birth rate is the world's second lowest, following Italy's. Flexible labor markets, versatile workplaces and favorable child-raising policies in countries such as the U.S., France and the U.K. have encouraged higher fertility rates. A case in point is Sweden, where a system guarantees 80% of income while a parent is on childcare leave for up to 390 days, which has helped to spur the national birthrate
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I think South America still has one of the largest birth rates right?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

SubaruWRX wrote:
I think South America still has one of the largest birth rates right?
not as much as some of the countries in the sub-saharan africa.

hxxp://webserve.govst.edu/users/gskladis/africa.htm
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

niko2x wrote:
not as much as some of the countries in the sub-saharan africa.

hxxp://webserve.govst.edu/users/gskladis/africa.htm


Can't view the page.

Take Colombia...

Birth rate:

20.82 births/1,000 population (2005 est.)


Japan

Birth rate:

9.47 births/1,000 population (2005 est.)


U.S.A

Birth rate:

14.14 births/1,000 population (2005 est.)


France

Birth rate:
12.15 births/1,000 population (2005 est.)


Afghanistan

Birth rate:

47.02 births/1,000 population (2005 est.)


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

SubaruWRX wrote:


Can't view the page.

Change hxxp to http
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Just found out that if a woman gives birth in Japan, the Japanese government gives $3,000.00USD per baby.
Since the wife and I are having two, we were wondering if we should go to Japan to have her give birth, since she's a Japanese citizen and all.....
If so, I just have to follow up on any possible complications that we may encounter.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

with the way things are going now they should be giving $6,000USD for each.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

SubaruWRX wrote:
with the way things are going now they should be giving $6,000USD for each.

Perhaps, however money is a limited resource. Imagine if 1,000 people had a baby and the government paid $6,000.00USD per baby. That's a lot of money.
Receiving $3,000.00USD per child is a lot. A "Bonus" for having a baby, if you may.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I never said it was unlimited, i'm saying if they want them to have sex, then offer more money.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

SubaruWRX wrote:
I never said it was unlimited, i'm saying if they want them to have sex, then offer more money.

Be advised that people WILL have sex regardless if money is an incentive or not.
Making a baby however, is not something that many people are willing to do out of spite. With or without a monetary incentive.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Well then the numbers will keep falling.
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