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ahochaude



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 9:29 am    Post subject: Re: christmas in japanese Reply with quote Back to top

sangmin wrote:
how do u say merry christmas in jaoanese and in korean if you know i would really appreciateit

Japanese just say the same "Merry Christmas"
Christmas is a holiday which originated from Christianity. Originally, Japanese were Buddhist. They adopted the holiday from U.S. influence (I suppose. I don't know so don't quote me on that) The way the do it is slightly different too. It's a "boyfriend, girlfriend spend time together holiday" as in the states, it's more "family oriented".

Sorry, I don't know Korean.
(I think they say the same, "Merry Christmas")

"Yobo se oh" ?

Hahaha, I don't even know if I spelled that correctly. Probably not. hehe




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Ho, BMW-san. Too fast!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 9:31 am    Post subject: Re: christmas in japanese Reply with quote Back to top

ahochaude wrote:


"Yobo se oh" ?

Hahaha, I don't even know if I spelled that correctly. Probably not. hehe






you mean hello? hehe
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2003 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Okay. You know "itadakimasu"? I'm still wondering myself to bits... is the last letter "u", silent? Or do you say it as well?? I hear some Japanese say something like e.g. "gozaimasu" but some do it as "gozaimas'"... confused here.

As for "gochisosama"... some will just say "gochi". I heard. =)
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2003 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

gnim wrote:
Okay. You know "itadakimasu"? I'm still wondering myself to bits... is the last letter "u", silent? Or do you say it as well?? I hear some Japanese say something like e.g. "gozaimasu" but some do it as "gozaimas'"... confused here.

As for "gochisosama"... some will just say "gochi". I heard. =)
All words un JPNese ends in a vowel sound, so it's itadakimas-u (a short u sound).
AS far as just "gochi", never heard of it or used it, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's used by kids. As far as "proper JPN" used by family and friends (and not just 5 yr old toddlers) it's "gochisosama (deshita)".
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2003 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

ya niko is right...u can say the u or not. it really doesn't matter just don't forget there is a U at the end. i heard that typicaly more girls than guys say 'su'... just what i heard
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 1:52 am    Post subject: the way to use "or" in japanese? Reply with quote Back to top

i have been learning a little japanese but i really found something that really clearly told me any thing about how japanese use the word 'or' like if i wanted to say pick this "or" that, the red one "or" the blue one. whats the japanese word to discribe the word "or" thanks Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

the relational particle u want is mo When the relational MO is repeated in a sentence it means "both....and..." or "either... or..." in negatives . MO replaces ga and o and it may follow phrases with the relationals such as kara , e, ni and the rest....

koohii mo koocha mo nomimasen. = i don't drink either coffe or black tea

hope that helps...


i might be wrong...so lets wait until ppl with betetr japanese than me log in.... like aho and niko and all those ppl...they should know better than me ...
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 5:18 am    Post subject: Re: the way to use "or" in japanese? Reply with quote Back to top

Agatsuma wrote:
i have been learning a little japanese but i really found something that really clearly told me any thing about how japanese use the word 'or' like if i wanted to say pick this "or" that, the red one "or" the blue one. whats the japanese word to discribe the word "or" thanks Smile

According to pimsleur, if you use 'or' in the middle of a sentence, use the japanese word 'ka'.
E.g.
3:00 or 5:00 --> sanji ka goji

On the other hand, if 'or' is the beginning of the sentence, use 'sore to mo'
E.g.
Or at my place
Sore to mo watashi no tokoro de.

I'm sure there are more variations but I'm only at track 12. Sweat
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 5:53 am    Post subject: Re: the way to use "or" in japanese? Reply with quote Back to top

Agatsuma wrote:
i have been learning a little japanese but i really found something that really clearly told me any thing about how japanese use the word 'or' like if i wanted to say pick this "or" that, the red one "or" the blue one. whats the japanese word to discribe the word "or" thanks Smile

"ka".

Not to be mistaken for the "ka" at the end of a sentence to create a question.

Apply it between the two objects being spoken of to create the "or" meaning.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

woops looks like i was wrong...AGAIN! sorry! thanks aho
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

WOW! you pple have helped a lot and it all makes sence thanks for everything!!! Big Grin
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Sometimes, when you want to ask someone, which of the two choices should you pick, you can say

A �� B �ł� ���� �� �D�� �ł� ���H
A �� B �ł� �ǂ��� �� ���� �ł� ���H
A to B dewa, dochira ga suki desu ka?
Which (of the two) do you like more, A or B?

To which you can reply:

A �̕��� B ��� �D�� �ł��B
A �̂ق��� B ��� ���� �ł��B
A nohouga B yori suki desu.
I like A more than B.

or

B ��� A �̕��� �D�� �ł��B
B ��� A �̂ق��� ���� �ł��B
B yori A nohouga suki desu.
I like B less than A.

or

A �̕��� �D�� �ł��B
A �̂ق��� ���� �ł��B
A nohouga suki desu.
I like A more.

or

B ��� �D�� �ł��B
B ��� ���� �ł��B
B yori suki desu.
I like B less.

I hope this was helpful.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

lovelessemotion wrote:
woops looks like i was wrong...AGAIN! sorry! thanks aho



But you were on the right track. Good!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

You can also use "mata wa" or "arui wa".

You can choose coffee or tea.
ko-hi- mata wa ocha wo erabemasu.

The simplest way is to simply divide it into different sentences:

Which do you prefer? Coffee or tea?
Dotchi ga suki desu ka? Ko-hi- dese ka? Ocha desu ka?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

lovelessemotion wrote:
woops looks like i was wrong...AGAIN! sorry! thanks aho
ahochaude wrote:
But you were on the right track. Good!
Yeah aho is right, at least you tried.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 4:02 pm    Post subject: HELP!! what is 'surrender' in japanese? Reply with quote Back to top

can someone please translate 'surrender' into japanese? arigatou ne~
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

why don't u use the dictionary function..? Mr Green

http://www.jdorama.com/list.php?s=surrender&w=w&op=and&l=eo
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

1. ���~ [���񂱂�] kankou call to surrender

2. �ח� [����炭] kanraku fall/sinking/surrender/capitulation

3. �ʝ� [���傭����] gyokusai (vs) dying but never surrendering

4. ���� [�����Ղ�] kutpuku (vs) yielding/submission/surrender/giving way/succumbing

5. ���� [�����Ղ�] kutpuku (vs) yielding/submission/surrender/giving way/succumbing

6. �~�� [�����ӂ�] koufuku capitulation/surrender/submission

7. �~�� [�����ӂ�] koufuku capitulation/surrender/submission

8. ���� [������] jishu (vs) surrender/give oneself up

9. ���� [��������] shitkan surrender/fall

10. ��n�� [�Ă킽��] tewatasu to hand over/to surrender

11. ���� [�䂸��] yuzuru to turn over/to assign/to hand over/to transmit/to convey/to sell/to dispose of/to yield/to surrender

12. ���~ [�Ƃ�����] toukou surrender

13. ���~�� [�Ƃ���������] toukousha surrenderer/person who surrenders

14. �����n�� [�����킽��] akewatasu to vacate/to surrender
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

arashinokoto wrote:
why don't u use the dictionary function..?
http://www.jdorama.com/list.php?s=surrender&w=w&op=and&l=eo
Wow, I never realized that jdorama has this kind of capability! (er, how do you do it? Where is the instructions to look up a word?)
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

yeah maybe that's why i got a *** for my grade in my japanese class... Sweat

anyway what the heck is mo for then? only when its negative? Crazy
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