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Bsalez



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Hope we can see event like Berlin wall, South and North Korea united....There shouldn't be any border between family..Whatever the reason.And da name is KOREA. ne minna. Mr Green
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I don't believe Korea will unite as one during my lifetime. Sorry for being pessismistic. N Korea is a communist state, they only want to blackmail for more benefits from the US, EU and Japan. N Korea is pullin new tricks up its sleeve http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3076996.stm
I don't think US can just wait and do nothin. Let's see how long can N Korea last from the pressure. Back to the cold war era. The beginning of 21 century has been terrible to the world such as world wide recession, WTC, Iraqi war, floods and earthquakes etc. Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 1:47 pm    Post subject: Answers are... Reply with quote Back to top

It is safe to say that 99.9% of Koreans in the States are from South Korea.

Although there are few pro-North Korea organization in the US, but I believe they are still from South Korea.

North Korea isn't a communist country, but it is a Stalinistic Totalism country!!

Somebody brought out the movie "go". I have very interesting story for you. I happened to talk to a Korean ethnic girl from Japan few years ago. She told me that when her grandfather was asked to choose either North, South Korea, or Japanese passport around late 1940s', her grandfather chose North Korea (He was living in Japan at that time). She didn't tell me why her grandfather chose North Korea, but she added to me that a lot of people chose North Korea that time. To become a Japanse citizen, you have to change your name to Japanese style (I feel this is bit stupid). I think that is why he decided not to get Japanese passport and many other Koreans in Japan still don't have Japanese citizenship, although some of them are 3rd or 4th generation.

I heard a rumor that Kimura Takuya's father or grandfather is actually Korean.


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Pemu



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

drive, thanks for the info! I wonder why her grampa didn't choose a South Korean citizenship. He didn't want to be in the US controlled South Korea? Have to agree with you that in order to have a japanese citizen, the name needed to be renamed. The Korean descendants are still discriminated in Japan Sad

Kimutaku's real name, "Kim Lee "something hehe
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Pemu, I think North Korea was a lot very economically than South Korea in 1940' and 50'. That could be the reason.... I think Sweat Sweat

About Kimura thing, my ex-Japanese conversation partner told me that. It is just rummor. Who know? Only Kimura knows... Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 6:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Answers are... Reply with quote Back to top

drive wrote:
North Korea isn't a communist country, but it is a Stalinistic Totalism country!!

I happened to talk to a Korean ethnic girl from Japan few years ago. She told me that when her grandfather was asked to choose either North, South Korea, or Japanese passport around late 1940s', her grandfather chose North Korea (He was living in Japan at that time). She didn't tell me why her grandfather chose North Korea, but she added to me that a lot of people chose North Korea that time. To become a Japanse citizen, you have to change your name to Japanese style (I feel this is bit stupid). I think that is why he decided not to get Japanese passport and many other Koreans in Japan still don't have Japanese citizenship, although some of them are 3rd or 4th generation.


Interesting story, Drive. I think that most people in this forum that has parents/grandparents of asian descent have some WWII story to tell that would be similar to the one above.
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aitri



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2003 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

wow, thanks for that story Drive; I didn't realize especially about that people had to change their name to a Japanese style if to become a japanese citizen.. that doesn't seem right, people should be allowed to keep their original names

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I heard a rumor that Kimura Takuya's father or grandfather is actually Korean.
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Kimutaku's real name, "Kim Lee "something

wow ~ i wonder if that could really be true!?!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2003 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

aitri wrote:

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I heard a rumor that Kimura Takuya's father or grandfather is actually Korean.
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Kimutaku's real name, "Kim Lee "something

wow ~ i wonder if that could really be true!?!


wow...that would be great...a mix!
hehe
there's always a gap between korean n jpnese...
hope that this prob can be solved
Sweat
easy to say...but not easy to be done..
Sweat
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Bsalez



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2003 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yep Da difference also can see when Japan national football team meet south korean side.....but I still prefer they settled Da difference thru football Mr Green
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

yeah...
but still during the world cup...
they changed their country's name to Corea instead...
many said because they didnt wanna use Korea because K comes after J(japan)
Sweat
maybe japan should change to "chapan"
so they'll be equal
Bleah hehe
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aitri



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

juliana_phang wrote:
yeah...
but still during the world cup...
they changed their country's name to Corea instead...
many said because they didnt wanna use Korea because K comes after J(japan)
Sweat
maybe japan should change to "chapan"
so they'll be equal
Bleah hehe

waa!?
that crazy! Crazy Was that just for duration of world cup?

ahh.. Corea and Chapan Big Grin
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

malorum wrote:
here is the end all reason why N.Korea sucks:


haha...i know a north koren guy,who somehow got out of there...i talked to im and he talked abt this dude as if he was god impersonatd...weird (>_<)
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

aitri wrote:
waa!?
that crazy! Crazy Was that just for duration of world cup?

ahh.. Corea and Chapan Big Grin


not sure...the other day i read a news article...saying that
koreans might use "Corea" during the olympics
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drive



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

"C" or "K" WHO CARES!!
Changing to "C" does not transform South Korea to a super power nation instantly. Some people in Korea wasting their energies on usuless things.
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M



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

aitri wrote:

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I heard a rumor that Kimura Takuya's father or grandfather is actually Korean.
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Kimutaku's real name, "Kim Lee "something

wow ~ i wonder if that could really be true!?!


So he has Korean blood in him?

No wonder he looks so much like Won Bin!
Wait, no... no wonder Won Bin looks so much like him! Yeah!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

M wrote:

So he has Korean blood in him?

No wonder he looks so much like Won Bin!
Wait, no... no wonder Won Bin looks so much like him! Yeah!


haha
i think it's not easy to differentiate asians..whether they r chinese..jpnese or korean
they all look alike..

if no one tells me that won bin is a korean...i'll definitely think that he's a chinese
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

aitri wrote:
juliana_phang wrote:
yeah...
but still during the world cup...
they changed their country's name to Corea instead...
many said because they didnt wanna use Korea because K comes after J(japan)
Sweat
maybe japan should change to "chapan"
so they'll be equal
Bleah hehe

waa!?
that crazy! Crazy Was that just for duration of world cup?

ahh.. Corea and Chapan Big Grin


Animosity runs DEEEP still in the Korean/Korean-Americans with the JPN's. Very nationalistic, a lot of Koreans opt to never purchase anything made in japan. Hyundais over hondas, samsung over mitsubishi (hey, they're even kind of simular: sansung = 3 stars; mitsubishi = 3 diamonds). And another touchy subject is the naming of Sea of Japan.
http://geography.about.com/library/weekly/aa022402a.htm. A korean co-worker INSISTS it should be called the East Sea.

Most people might think that these 3, Japan, Korea, China really hate one another, but my opinion is that they have that in other region as well. France, Germany, England. My point is that most neighboring country have some sort of animosity towards one another.

I also would like to add that it's not just with other countries as well. It happens WITHIN a country, too. For our sake, I'll use Japan as an example. Okinawa is considered to be Japan, as a lot of us know. But Okinawa has a high distain for Japan, or "mainlanders" as they are called. They considered themselves to be called Okinawa first, then Japanese. Okinawa at one time was a separate country, language, even Royalty (king) until the annexation of the JPN Imperial Military Machine in 1872 during the Meiji period (1868-1912). In short, JPN was brutal to her Okinawan subjects. Some might say that is a real reson that Karate started, for the japanese took away all the islander's weapons, including most farm equipment (hoes, shovels, etc), essentially disarming the people of okinawa and leaving them empty handed, which is what Kara (empty) te (hand) means.

I can talk for days on this subject, so I'll leave it at that and leave that until someone starts another thread. This thread is about S.Korea, remember Wink?
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Bsalez



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

The hatred I think is quite big among Korean toward Japanese cause all the invasion,rape issue ,etc....But it is the past right..? We have to look forward and be friend kind of hard but still possible I think.. Mr Green
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Bsalez wrote:
The hatred I think is quite big among Korean toward Japanese cause all the invasion,rape issue ,etc....But it is the past right..? We have to look forward and be friend kind of hard but still possible I think.. Mr Green
You are right in that aspect, but you have to remember that a lot of our parents/grandparents grew up during the time of Japan dominating over asia militaristically (is that a word?). So I'm sure that hatred has somewhat passed even just a little. I take me as an example: I remember story my mom told when she was little that she use to hid in the closet with her siblings duing the bombing of canton. She was so scared that when they entered the bombed out housing and all they heard was JPN soldiers yelling all kinds of things. Nothing physically happedned to her, tho. Her mom (my grandma) had 2 of her fingers of her left hand cut off because she refused to "give up information" (that she had no knowledge of anyways). She said that she was lucky compared to some of the things that she saw. After the war, during HK's restructuring, all the civilians had very little to eat. EVERYONE in asia at the time, not just Koreans hated the JPNese. Needless to say, I grew up having ill feeling towards JPN, as a matter of fact whenever the subject of JPN came up, it was always "Those damn Japanese are no damn good..." so you can imagine what was going thru my head later on when I would eventually told them that I have decided to marry Tomomi, and yes she is JPN.

I guess the moral of this story is: Although one can grow up with hatred, it can be learned to be subsided.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

My personal opinion is It is really kind of dangerous ne when one country which is so powerful not lead by someone who is not have concsience..For me I hate war.....whatever the reason...
Seem like what German and Japan did past decade...Now
History can be happen again if we 're not careful..I think we should put our WHole effort to develop the culture of mankind...That's why we have to maintain the peace whatever it cost but not by killing ppl for a reason..
But seem to me that again and again ppl who rules the country or have the power on the government not put alot of effort to maintain the peace...They could use all those money which is use to research on weapon to a more useful purpose...Cancer ,Aids,Leukimia can be cure if we got all those money...Or poverty...or on Education those such things..
Ne. Or is it just part of Human..ne Mr Green

Bottom Line:War is not right whatever the reason.We should spent our life doing more useful things..ne Mr Green
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